What is the real beef with RMAH? - Page 5

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This (sadly) isn't the first time that someone has tried this moral slippery-slope argument in regards to the RMAH, and I will repeat the same thing that I said last time (paraphrased):

A video game company selling a product that has features that you do not like, is not analogous in any way to an oppressive government violating the rights of human beings.



(Pretty soon I might have to make this my signature.)




Ah, first world problems.|||Quote:








Ah, first world problems.




Precisely!

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So you gave your friend an item but you had rules attached to it but he wasnt aware until he decided what he wanted to do with HIS item.....how "nice" of you.

A while ago I made a statement that Blizzard cannot be blamed for people's failures at actually being human and this is EXACTLY what I am talking about. Aside from potential dupes, bots or the value of gold all other arguments against RMAH is worthless emotional garbage.




Yes, it's difficult to understand society sometimes, but the more you socialize you'll begin to understand. This is how many things work. If you spend all your time listing your unspoken rules to people in social situations then it's no surprise you haven't got this figured out yet.|||yeah...OR you could, you know be a real friend and mean what you say when you give up an item. I have given friends higher level gear and some decided to turn around and use it in a trade for something they wanted. I wasnt mad because when I made the decision to give it to them I really meant it that it was all theirs. You will understand that more as you grow up.|||People mainly complaint about what others will do... (farming, etc...) and forget about themselves... play your game let others play theirs.... Don't worry about others so much...

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It is kind of like this the D2 is your ex girlfriend and she constantly told you how much she hated butt sex. Now she is dating Bobby Kotic and they are making butt sex porn in their basement. That 180 is what got a lot of people flustered.




I am sorry but this is hilarious!





BTW the whole nazi thing just makes me think of

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First, shared stash makes it much easier to trade between your characters (effortless in fact), so I fail to see the significance of finding a WD item on a non-WD class.




Then read the entire post.

I said:

1: You are not a WD.

2: You either do not have a WD, or your WD does not need that item.

3: You are playing with a WD.

Without RMAH, you are much more likely to give the WD item to the WD you've been running with than you would be with it.


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Second, if the item to you is of little to no interest, be it you have better equips or you don't play a WD, what would you do with it with out the RMAH? If you have better equips, there's no point in saving it for your WD. If you don't play a WD, why keep it? So now you can drop it or sell it. I fail to see how the absence of the RMAH makes you more inclined to keep said item, if it's useless to you. If anything it adds another option to choose from.




You would be much more likely to pass it to the guy you have been playing with. See, one encourages community, and one encourages selfishness. Guess which is which?


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Now, lets say you found a top tier WD item. I would guess that you would argue that the RMAH makes the player more inclined to sell it than to keep & use it.

I argue, that there is still that same dilemma without the RMAH. The GAH. Do I sell it, get a boat load of gold, and outfit my other characters/improve my WD? Or do I keep it and make use of it?

The RMAH just adds 'Do I sell it for $, and if I do, will it be for Blizzard credits, or for real money' to the option tree of selling the item.




Assuming we go for that, selling now for money means you get more now than you would later. Selling now for gold does not. So with just a gold AH you can use the item, then sell it later and not be losing anything because while there are more of that item around now, there is also more gold around, so it's not worth less overall. With a RMAH if you find something valuable, it's like a car. You buy it, it immediately loses 30% of its value, and then continues to degenerate from that point.


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As evidenced by WoW, the decision to go online only will make hackers/dupes a rare site. As for bots, time will tell if they become a problem.




Yes, because gold farmers get the massive amounts of gold they sell every day by doing dailies right? Don't play the WoW is hack free card, it only makes you look foolish.|||Don't forget that unless you cash out your money at the time of the sale it is forever blizzard's money and you can only use it to buy things in the blizzard universe. And never it be real again.

So for those thinking they can make a lot of money in the AH and then just cash out at the end think again.